1303 box into late Bay?

thelightmake · Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:02 pm Post subject: 1303 box into late Bay?

Hi there.
Iam in the process of fitting a Vw Golf 1.9 td aaz lump into my 76 Bay Panel and was after some advise on fitting a 1303 box I have. I have all the parts from Kennedy for the conversion but having removed my van gearbox I have noticed that the van inner joints are larger than the 1303 box joints.
Are the inner joints interchangeable; ie can I just fit 1303 inners to my van driveshafts?
Or, do I swithch the gaerbox flanges?
Or, do I fit early type shafts?
Help!!

Cheers for any info.
Mike.
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trev · Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:51 pm Post subject:

I have to ask: why?

thelightmake · Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:43 pm Post subject:

I am fitting it to obtain a higher final drive. This will only be a temporary measure while i have my van box rebuilt with a taller final drive. Or did you mean the TD lump?
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13 window deluxe · Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:55 pm Post subject:

the proper 091 bay box would be stronger but if this is temporary measure use 90mm bug inner cv joints with a spacer washer on the inside off the joint on the driveshaft to take the slack up like with the type2 style irs kit on a splitty or buy a pair of later irs trekker driveshaft flanges for the gearbox 50 pound each i belive from the dealers
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1964 rat 13 window deluxe 1Z tdi,
1975 rhd twin slider tintop (TBA)
1991 golf 2 gti with tweaked AHU tdi,

previous tdi swaps: gone but not forgotten
1979 rhd twin slider tintop bay ahu 1.9tdi
1990 T25 1Z 1.9tdi
1993 suzuki samurai with 1Z 1.9tdi

13 window deluxe · Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:59 pm Post subject:

will the kennedy flywheel & ring gear fit inside the 03 box without fouling? the 03 bell housing is tiny compaired to the 091 and will your starter fit?
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1964 rat 13 window deluxe 1Z tdi,
1975 rhd twin slider tintop (TBA)
1991 golf 2 gti with tweaked AHU tdi,

previous tdi swaps: gone but not forgotten
1979 rhd twin slider tintop bay ahu 1.9tdi
1990 T25 1Z 1.9tdi
1993 suzuki samurai with 1Z 1.9tdi

thelightmake · Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:47 pm Post subject:

thelightmake · Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 9:49 pm Post subject:

thelightmake · Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:02 pm Post subject:

Also, would an 090 box be what was in my van as standard or is that the 2 litre box? Any idea what the final drive would be?
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13 window deluxe · Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:04 pm Post subject:

bug cv joints fit the bay shaft (same splines) as i have this set up on my irs splitty 90mm bug inners on 1303 box and 100mm outers on bay stub axles. the box will be a 002 or 091 dependent on what the original engine was in your bay i believe the 002 was with the 1600 and 091 with the 2000 i might be wrong im sure someone will be along soon who nows more about bays than me
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1964 rat 13 window deluxe 1Z tdi,
1975 rhd twin slider tintop (TBA)
1991 golf 2 gti with tweaked AHU tdi,

previous tdi swaps: gone but not forgotten
1979 rhd twin slider tintop bay ahu 1.9tdi
1990 T25 1Z 1.9tdi
1993 suzuki samurai with 1Z 1.9tdi

richbaker78 · Teacher of Padawans Joined: 31 Jan 2006 Posts: 1298

yes the 091 was the 2ltr box.
TBh i wouldnt bother going to the hassle of putting in the 03s box - bay 1600 boxes are cheap and fairly available and would save you a lot of messing about if its just a temp fix whilst yours is being rebuilt.
The 03s box is also smaller so you would probably have to mess with the linkage and mounting as well as driveshafts.

thelightmake · Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 7:01 am Post subject:

Thanks a lot for all the help guys.

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