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spellbound
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 Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 4:19 pm Post subject: Intercooler in my Oval |
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Hey guys,
out of interest if i went with turbo(s) on a scooby engine in my Oval do i HAVE to have the intercooler near the engine?
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Could i run the intercooler in the front of the Oval?
If i did run it in the front of the car does anyone know if/how this would efffect the running of the engine/turbo(s)?
Many thanx for taking the time to answer/help out
Cheers
Mario 
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Kai
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| Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 7:18 pm Post subject: Re: Intercooler in my Oval |
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| spellbound wrote: |
If i did run it in the front of the car does anyone know if/how this would efffect the running of the engine/turbo(s)?
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You'll be looking at major turbo lag and horrible throttle response.
Imagine everytime you got open the throttle and wound the turbo up you'll be waiting for the charged air to travel the lehgth of the car twice. what size ducting would you use too????
You need a charge cooler.... basically uses water to as the cooling medium as opposed to using ram air.
Intercooler is Air to air
charge cooler is water to air.
you'll have two coolant lines running front to back and have a small rad up front cooling the water.
Plenty of pics of my charger cooler on my thread
http://vwkd.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=2605&start=0&sid=b90c59cb9b1c3d7a2d6299be9f781310
Or you can hunt down the components from a Legacy fitted with a chargecooler.
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spellbound
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| Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 7:30 pm Post subject: Re: Intercooler in my Oval |
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| Kai wrote: | | spellbound wrote: |
If i did run it in the front of the car does anyone know if/how this would efffect the running of the engine/turbo(s)?
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You'll be looking at major turbo lag and horrible throttle response.
Imagine everytime you got open the throttle and wound the turbo up you'll be waiting for the charged air to travel the lehgth of the car twice. what size ducting would you use too????
You need a charge cooler.... basically uses water to as the cooling medium as opposed to using ram air.
Intercooler is Air to air
charge cooler is water to air.
you'll have two coolant lines running front to back and have a small rad up front cooling the water.
Plenty of pics of my charger cooler on my thread
http://vwkd.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=2605&start=0&sid=b90c59cb9b1c3d7a2d6299be9f781310
Or you can hunt down the components from a Legacy fitted with a chargecooler. |
Thanks for that Kai.
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| Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 8:29 pm Post subject: Re: Intercooler in my Oval |
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| Kai wrote: | | or you can hunt down the components from a Legacy fitted with a chargecooler. |
did legacys have have them standard then? what years? thats intersting as i want one for the split tdi when i put my new turbo and injectors on would save me a few quid if i can get one second hand
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MostlyMonki
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| Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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it was the early legacy's (pre bonet hump), not sure on the years though. you cen get them for about £50 on ebay normally. i've got one for my crewcab... my bug is using an intercooler, with naca ducts in the back side window and ducting to the IC - but mines probably a LOT more chopped up than youll want to do with your oval.
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The legacy you were looking at has a chargecooler fitted.
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found the legacy charge cooler on internet now it fits where the intercooler would go on a impezza turbo, looks like a good little unit to fit a impezza motor if it was in something rear engined
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thanks guys for taking the time out to reply.
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spellbound
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bloody hell i must be blind or daft as i did a search yesterday and nowt came up!
Cheers Kai that is now in my watch list
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